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  • 1.  Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Posted 06-02-2017 00:43
    Hello everybody:

    Here is our perspective on the US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement:

    "Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?"
    https://theconversation.com/are-we-overreacting-to-us-withdrawal-from-the-paris-agreement-on-climate-78741


    Aseem
    ********************************************************************

    Aseem Prakash
    Professor, Department of Political Science
    Walker Family Professor for the College of Arts and Sciences
    Founding Director, UW Center for Environmental Politics
    39 Gowen Hall, Box 353530
    University of Washington
    Seattle, WA 98195-3530

    http://faculty.washington.edu/aseem/
    http://depts.washington.edu/envirpol/


  • 2.  Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Posted 06-02-2017 07:54
    Hi Aseem,
     
    An interesting contribution to the debate but for a strongly contrary perspective see https://theconversation.com/why-trumps-decision-to-leave-paris-accord-hurts-the-us-and-the-world-78707
     
    In my own view symbolism is massively important in the face of a fragile international coalition of action founded primarily on goodwill. It is hard to see how this will not be massively damaging for the world.
     
    Kind regards
     
    Mark
     
    Mark Fenton-O'Creevy NTF SFHEA
    Associate Dean, External Engagement &    
    Professor of Organisational Behaviour
    The Open University, Walton Hall, Milton Keynes, MK7 6AA, United Kingdom
    T: +44 (0)1908 (6)55804 M: +44(0)7977 576721
     

    My latest publications:
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Hello everybody:
     
    Here is our perspective on the US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement:
     
    "Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?"
     
     
    Aseem
    ********************************************************************
     
    Aseem Prakash
    Professor, Department of Political Science Walker Family Professor for the College of Arts and Sciences Founding Director, UW Center for Environmental Politics
    39 Gowen Hall, Box 353530
    University of Washington
    Seattle, WA 98195-3530
     
     


  • 3.  Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Posted 06-02-2017 15:20
    Dear Aseem,

    Thank you for sharing your views.  Now is not the time for hysteria or 'the sky is falling thinking'.  Yes, the announced pullout (which, remember, takes three to four years to accomplish) is a strong negative symbol, but so are all the responses to continue supporting the Paris Accord coming from a wide spectrum of public and private sector sources, domestic and foreign.  There are strong market forces that will continue to push for the mitigation of global warming, and also strong public opinion forces.  By his words and actions, Trump essentially has marginalized the United States and made it largely irrelevant on the world stage, both with respect to climate change and international diplomacy.  But by our actions - and 'our' includes academia, local government, not for profits, etc. - we can continue the effective push to address climate change and marginalize and make Trump and his wealthy puppeteers irrelevant.

    Let me share with you a link to the keynote speech made by Prof. Jeff Sachs at the Global Solutions T20 Summit on May 30th.  It's a bit over 22 minutes long but well worth hearing.


    Best,

    John Dilyard
    Professor, St. Francis College
    Brooklyn, NY

    On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Aseem Prakash <aseem@u.washington.edu> wrote:
    Hello everybody:

    Here is our perspective on the US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement:

    "Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?"
    https://theconversation.com/are-we-overreacting-to-us-withdrawal-from-the-paris-agreement-on-climate-78741


    Aseem
    ********************************************************************

    Aseem Prakash
    Professor, Department of Political Science
    Walker Family Professor for the College of Arts and Sciences
    Founding Director, UW Center for Environmental Politics
    39 Gowen Hall, Box 353530
    University of Washington
    Seattle, WA 98195-3530

    http://faculty.washington.edu/aseem/
    http://depts.washington.edu/envirpol/



  • 4.  Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Posted 06-02-2017 19:28
    Ladies and Gentlemen:

    This may be a response that some may not want to read, but I ask you to take a deep breath and consider the rhetoric involved in this discussion around the world for the past couple of decades. First, the argument was about "MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING."   When stats showed that perhaps the facts were not meeting the rhetoric, the climate-advocacy-agenda movement then changed the argument to a second rendition: "MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE."  When that too did not gain the necessary traction, the third rendition was vocalized today at the US White House press briefing, with repetitive questions that were essentially: "Does President Trump believe in CLIMATE CHANGE?"

    For the record, I believe there is clear evidence of CLIMATE CHANGE.  This is clearly evidenced in the various ice-ages that are part of the history of the world.  This is clearly shown in the Antarctic explorations that proved that continent was once had a tropical climate, at least along the coastline. Moreover, natural emissions into the atmosphere by the planet itself are probably a tad more destructive than anything that mankind could do today.  Just ask, if we could, the folks who lived in Pompey.

    This is not to say that there is clear evidence of pollution on localized levels; this is easily seen when one sees the blackened cathedrals and other historic buildings in Europe.  That problem is localized, and a local fix can address it.

    I ask you to take a step back and look at who screams the loudest about this "climate change"; I dare assert that most are not barefooted impoverished holy-men-beggars.  No, no; these are folks who fly about the planet on private jets, move around on land in chauffeured limousine motorcades, telling the rest of us to tighten out belts; to give more money to this entity or that entity that is going to solve all of our environmental woes.  Sorry, folks, I do not buy it.  Follow the money. Look at which companies and which of the global elite are set to become enriched in this whole man-made global warming; excuse me, man-made climate change; oh no, climate change (thats it!) agenda. 

    Follow the money.

    As for me, I back the President of the United States, Donald Trump.

    My statements are my own and do not reflect the opinions, positions, policy, or rhetoric of anyone else.

    Dr. John Lambert

     


    From: John D <jdilyard@GMAIL.COM>
    To: IMD-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:52 PM
    Subject: Re: Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Dear Aseem,

    Thank you for sharing your views.  Now is not the time for hysteria or 'the sky is falling thinking'.  Yes, the announced pullout (which, remember, takes three to four years to accomplish) is a strong negative symbol, but so are all the responses to continue supporting the Paris Accord coming from a wide spectrum of public and private sector sources, domestic and foreign.  There are strong market forces that will continue to push for the mitigation of global warming, and also strong public opinion forces.  By his words and actions, Trump essentially has marginalized the United States and made it largely irrelevant on the world stage, both with respect to climate change and international diplomacy.  But by our actions - and 'our' includes academia, local government, not for profits, etc. - we can continue the effective push to address climate change and marginalize and make Trump and his wealthy puppeteers irrelevant.

    Let me share with you a link to the keynote speech made by Prof. Jeff Sachs at the Global Solutions T20 Summit on May 30th.  It's a bit over 22 minutes long but well worth hearing.


    Best,

    John Dilyard
    Professor, St. Francis College
    Brooklyn, NY

    On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Aseem Prakash <aseem@u.washington.edu> wrote:
    Hello everybody:

    Here is our perspective on the US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement:

    "Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?"
    https://theconversation.com/ar e-we-overreacting-to-us-withdr awal-from-the-paris-agreement- on-climate-78741


    Aseem
    ****************************** ****************************** ********

    Aseem Prakash
    Professor, Department of Political Science
    Walker Family Professor for the College of Arts and Sciences
    Founding Director, UW Center for Environmental Politics
    39 Gowen Hall, Box 353530
    University of Washington
    Seattle, WA 98195-3530

    http://faculty.washington.edu/ aseem/
    http://depts.washington.edu/en virpol/





  • 5.  Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Posted 06-03-2017 09:25
    Dear Dr Lambert,

    There is an overwhelming scientific consensus around the world on the evidence for global warming as a result of the increase in atmospheric CO2 as a direct consequence of human activity. No scientific conclusion can ever be regarded as conclusively settled, but the very large majority of climate scientists believe the evidence to be very strong. On the matter of financial incentives, on average, climate scientists earn rather less than US business school professors. On the other hand a significant number of US congressmen have been taking payments from Exxon Mobil and other firms with a financial interest in stalling climate change action for years. 

    You have a PhD, why not take time to read the relevant journals. 

    Kind regards


    Mark

    Mark Fenton-O'Creevy
    Associate Dean External Engagement
    Professor of Organisational Behaviour
    Open University Business School
    Walton Hall
    Milton Keynes MK7 6AA
    United Kingdom

    (DL) +44 (0)1908-655804
    Mobile +44 (0) 7977 576721
    Fax: +44 (0)1908-655898

    Sent from my iPad

    On 3 Jun 2017, at 01:53, Dr. John Lambert <000000448b5c14c4-dmarc-request@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> wrote:

    Ladies and Gentlemen:

    This may be a response that some may not want to read, but I ask you to take a deep breath and consider the rhetoric involved in this discussion around the world for the past couple of decades. First, the argument was about "MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING."   When stats showed that perhaps the facts were not meeting the rhetoric, the climate-advocacy-agenda movement then changed the argument to a second rendition: "MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE."  When that too did not gain the necessary traction, the third rendition was vocalized today at the US White House press briefing, with repetitive questions that were essentially: "Does President Trump believe in CLIMATE CHANGE?"

    For the record, I believe there is clear evidence of CLIMATE CHANGE.  This is clearly evidenced in the various ice-ages that are part of the history of the world.  This is clearly shown in the Antarctic explorations that proved that continent was once had a tropical climate, at least along the coastline. Moreover, natural emissions into the atmosphere by the planet itself are probably a tad more destructive than anything that mankind could do today.  Just ask, if we could, the folks who lived in Pompey.

    This is not to say that there is clear evidence of pollution on localized levels; this is easily seen when one sees the blackened cathedrals and other historic buildings in Europe.  That problem is localized, and a local fix can address it.

    I ask you to take a step back and look at who screams the loudest about this "climate change"; I dare assert that most are not barefooted impoverished holy-men-beggars.  No, no; these are folks who fly about the planet on private jets, move around on land in chauffeured limousine motorcades, telling the rest of us to tighten out belts; to give more money to this entity or that entity that is going to solve all of our environmental woes.  Sorry, folks, I do not buy it.  Follow the money. Look at which companies and which of the global elite are set to become enriched in this whole man-made global warming; excuse me, man-made climate change; oh no, climate change (thats it!) agenda. 

    Follow the money.

    As for me, I back the President of the United States, Donald Trump.

    My statements are my own and do not reflect the opinions, positions, policy, or rhetoric of anyone else.

    Dr. John Lambert

     


    From: John D <jdilyard@GMAIL.COM>
    To: IMD-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:52 PM
    Subject: Re: Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Dear Aseem,

    Thank you for sharing your views.  Now is not the time for hysteria or 'the sky is falling thinking'.  Yes, the announced pullout (which, remember, takes three to four years to accomplish) is a strong negative symbol, but so are all the responses to continue supporting the Paris Accord coming from a wide spectrum of public and private sector sources, domestic and foreign.  There are strong market forces that will continue to push for the mitigation of global warming, and also strong public opinion forces.  By his words and actions, Trump essentially has marginalized the United States and made it largely irrelevant on the world stage, both with respect to climate change and international diplomacy.  But by our actions - and 'our' includes academia, local government, not for profits, etc. - we can continue the effective push to address climate change and marginalize and make Trump and his wealthy puppeteers irrelevant.

    Let me share with you a link to the keynote speech made by Prof. Jeff Sachs at the Global Solutions T20 Summit on May 30th.  It's a bit over 22 minutes long but well worth hearing.


    Best,

    John Dilyard
    Professor, St. Francis College
    Brooklyn, NY

    On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Aseem Prakash <aseem@u.washington.edu> wrote:
    Hello everybody:

    Here is our perspective on the US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement:

    "Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?"
    https://theconversation.com/ar e-we-overreacting-to-us-withdr awal-from-the-paris-agreement- on-climate-78741


    Aseem
    ****************************** ****************************** ********

    Aseem Prakash
    Professor, Department of Political Science
    Walker Family Professor for the College of Arts and Sciences
    Founding Director, UW Center for Environmental Politics
    39 Gowen Hall, Box 353530
    University of Washington
    Seattle, WA 98195-3530

    http://faculty.washington.edu/ aseem/
    http://depts.washington.edu/en virpol/





  • 6.  Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Posted 06-03-2017 13:16
    Colleagues,

    'Follow the money' also applies to the vast amounts spent by the Koch Brothers to fund disinformation and keep their Republican Party lackeys in Congress.  

    John Dilyard

    On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Mark.Fentonocreevy <mark.fentonocreevy@open.ac.uk> wrote:
    Dear Dr Lambert,

    There is an overwhelming scientific consensus around the world on the evidence for global warming as a result of the increase in atmospheric CO2 as a direct consequence of human activity. No scientific conclusion can ever be regarded as conclusively settled, but the very large majority of climate scientists believe the evidence to be very strong. On the matter of financial incentives, on average, climate scientists earn rather less than US business school professors. On the other hand a significant number of US congressmen have been taking payments from Exxon Mobil and other firms with a financial interest in stalling climate change action for years. 

    You have a PhD, why not take time to read the relevant journals. 

    Kind regards


    Mark

    Mark Fenton-O'Creevy
    Associate Dean External Engagement
    Professor of Organisational Behaviour
    Open University Business School
    Walton Hall
    Milton Keynes MK7 6AA
    United Kingdom


    Sent from my iPad

    On 3 Jun 2017, at 01:53, Dr. John Lambert <000000448b5c14c4-dmarc-request@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> wrote:

    Ladies and Gentlemen:

    This may be a response that some may not want to read, but I ask you to take a deep breath and consider the rhetoric involved in this discussion around the world for the past couple of decades. First, the argument was about "MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING."   When stats showed that perhaps the facts were not meeting the rhetoric, the climate-advocacy-agenda movement then changed the argument to a second rendition: "MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE."  When that too did not gain the necessary traction, the third rendition was vocalized today at the US White House press briefing, with repetitive questions that were essentially: "Does President Trump believe in CLIMATE CHANGE?"

    For the record, I believe there is clear evidence of CLIMATE CHANGE.  This is clearly evidenced in the various ice-ages that are part of the history of the world.  This is clearly shown in the Antarctic explorations that proved that continent was once had a tropical climate, at least along the coastline. Moreover, natural emissions into the atmosphere by the planet itself are probably a tad more destructive than anything that mankind could do today.  Just ask, if we could, the folks who lived in Pompey.

    This is not to say that there is clear evidence of pollution on localized levels; this is easily seen when one sees the blackened cathedrals and other historic buildings in Europe.  That problem is localized, and a local fix can address it.

    I ask you to take a step back and look at who screams the loudest about this "climate change"; I dare assert that most are not barefooted impoverished holy-men-beggars.  No, no; these are folks who fly about the planet on private jets, move around on land in chauffeured limousine motorcades, telling the rest of us to tighten out belts; to give more money to this entity or that entity that is going to solve all of our environmental woes.  Sorry, folks, I do not buy it.  Follow the money. Look at which companies and which of the global elite are set to become enriched in this whole man-made global warming; excuse me, man-made climate change; oh no, climate change (thats it!) agenda. 

    Follow the money.

    As for me, I back the President of the United States, Donald Trump.

    My statements are my own and do not reflect the opinions, positions, policy, or rhetoric of anyone else.

    Dr. John Lambert

     


    From: John D <jdilyard@GMAIL.COM>
    To: IMD-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:52 PM
    Subject: Re: Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Dear Aseem,

    Thank you for sharing your views.  Now is not the time for hysteria or 'the sky is falling thinking'.  Yes, the announced pullout (which, remember, takes three to four years to accomplish) is a strong negative symbol, but so are all the responses to continue supporting the Paris Accord coming from a wide spectrum of public and private sector sources, domestic and foreign.  There are strong market forces that will continue to push for the mitigation of global warming, and also strong public opinion forces.  By his words and actions, Trump essentially has marginalized the United States and made it largely irrelevant on the world stage, both with respect to climate change and international diplomacy.  But by our actions - and 'our' includes academia, local government, not for profits, etc. - we can continue the effective push to address climate change and marginalize and make Trump and his wealthy puppeteers irrelevant.

    Let me share with you a link to the keynote speech made by Prof. Jeff Sachs at the Global Solutions T20 Summit on May 30th.  It's a bit over 22 minutes long but well worth hearing.


    Best,

    John Dilyard
    Professor, St. Francis College
    Brooklyn, NY

    On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Aseem Prakash <aseem@u.washington.edu> wrote:
    Hello everybody:

    Here is our perspective on the US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement:

    "Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?"
    https://theconversation.com/ar e-we-overreacting-to-us-withdr awal-from-the-paris-agreement- on-climate-78741


    Aseem
    ****************************** ****************************** ********

    Aseem Prakash
    Professor, Department of Political Science
    Walker Family Professor for the College of Arts and Sciences
    Founding Director, UW Center for Environmental Politics
    39 Gowen Hall, Box 353530
    University of Washington
    Seattle, WA 98195-3530

    http://faculty.washington.edu/ aseem/
    http://depts.washington.edu/en virpol/






  • 7.  Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Posted 06-03-2017 14:01
    Colleagues:

    I attach here a recent article of mine, "Corporate Responsibility, Democracy, and Climate Change," that addresses the role of corporations such as Exxon Mobile in the disinformation campaigns that have leant credibility to the unscientific and ideologically driven denial of anthropgenic climate change.  It includes citations to some of the scholarly literature on the science and the  expected negative outcomes of climate change for those who might be unfamiliar with scholarship in these area.  I hope you may find it helpful - it may be particularly valuable for use in the classroom.

    Kind Regards,

    Denis

    Denis G. Arnold, Ph.D. 
    Surtman Distinguished Professor of Business Ethics
    Professor of Management
    University of North Carolina, Charlotte 
    Phone: 704-687-7703 
    http://belkcollege.uncc.edu/directory/denis-g-arnold



  • 8.  Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Posted 06-03-2017 09:31
    For a nice summary see the NASA page https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    Mark

    Mark Fenton-O'Creevy
    Associate Dean External Engagement
    Professor of Organisational Behaviour
    Open University Business School
    Walton Hall
    Milton Keynes MK7 6AA
    United Kingdom

    (DL) +44 (0)1908-655804
    Mobile +44 (0) 7977 576721
    Fax: +44 (0)1908-655898

    Sent from my iPad

    On 3 Jun 2017, at 01:53, Dr. John Lambert <000000448b5c14c4-dmarc-request@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> wrote:

    Ladies and Gentlemen:

    This may be a response that some may not want to read, but I ask you to take a deep breath and consider the rhetoric involved in this discussion around the world for the past couple of decades. First, the argument was about "MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING."   When stats showed that perhaps the facts were not meeting the rhetoric, the climate-advocacy-agenda movement then changed the argument to a second rendition: "MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE."  When that too did not gain the necessary traction, the third rendition was vocalized today at the US White House press briefing, with repetitive questions that were essentially: "Does President Trump believe in CLIMATE CHANGE?"

    For the record, I believe there is clear evidence of CLIMATE CHANGE.  This is clearly evidenced in the various ice-ages that are part of the history of the world.  This is clearly shown in the Antarctic explorations that proved that continent was once had a tropical climate, at least along the coastline. Moreover, natural emissions into the atmosphere by the planet itself are probably a tad more destructive than anything that mankind could do today.  Just ask, if we could, the folks who lived in Pompey.

    This is not to say that there is clear evidence of pollution on localized levels; this is easily seen when one sees the blackened cathedrals and other historic buildings in Europe.  That problem is localized, and a local fix can address it.

    I ask you to take a step back and look at who screams the loudest about this "climate change"; I dare assert that most are not barefooted impoverished holy-men-beggars.  No, no; these are folks who fly about the planet on private jets, move around on land in chauffeured limousine motorcades, telling the rest of us to tighten out belts; to give more money to this entity or that entity that is going to solve all of our environmental woes.  Sorry, folks, I do not buy it.  Follow the money. Look at which companies and which of the global elite are set to become enriched in this whole man-made global warming; excuse me, man-made climate change; oh no, climate change (thats it!) agenda. 

    Follow the money.

    As for me, I back the President of the United States, Donald Trump.

    My statements are my own and do not reflect the opinions, positions, policy, or rhetoric of anyone else.

    Dr. John Lambert

     


    From: John D <jdilyard@GMAIL.COM>
    To: IMD-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:52 PM
    Subject: Re: Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Dear Aseem,

    Thank you for sharing your views.  Now is not the time for hysteria or 'the sky is falling thinking'.  Yes, the announced pullout (which, remember, takes three to four years to accomplish) is a strong negative symbol, but so are all the responses to continue supporting the Paris Accord coming from a wide spectrum of public and private sector sources, domestic and foreign.  There are strong market forces that will continue to push for the mitigation of global warming, and also strong public opinion forces.  By his words and actions, Trump essentially has marginalized the United States and made it largely irrelevant on the world stage, both with respect to climate change and international diplomacy.  But by our actions - and 'our' includes academia, local government, not for profits, etc. - we can continue the effective push to address climate change and marginalize and make Trump and his wealthy puppeteers irrelevant.

    Let me share with you a link to the keynote speech made by Prof. Jeff Sachs at the Global Solutions T20 Summit on May 30th.  It's a bit over 22 minutes long but well worth hearing.


    Best,

    John Dilyard
    Professor, St. Francis College
    Brooklyn, NY

    On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Aseem Prakash <aseem@u.washington.edu> wrote:
    Hello everybody:

    Here is our perspective on the US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement:

    "Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?"
    https://theconversation.com/ar e-we-overreacting-to-us-withdr awal-from-the-paris-agreement- on-climate-78741


    Aseem
    ****************************** ****************************** ********

    Aseem Prakash
    Professor, Department of Political Science
    Walker Family Professor for the College of Arts and Sciences
    Founding Director, UW Center for Environmental Politics
    39 Gowen Hall, Box 353530
    University of Washington
    Seattle, WA 98195-3530

    http://faculty.washington.edu/ aseem/
    http://depts.washington.edu/en virpol/





  • 9.  Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Posted 06-03-2017 16:25
    Hey all.

    I would like to enter this conversation a little with a BS in Environmental Science and Policy and Exec MBA with MS in Environmental Management and current PhD dissertation candidate in business leadership.   Climate change makes perfect science although the exact impact cannot be correctly determined with the magnitude of information we are currently able to gather due to time of trend and atmospheric occurences such as moon cycles and paleontologic time imprints. 

    I also know that in every scholarly journal document search that i undergo there are tons of US documents about leadership and change management dealing with environmental sustainability.  There are also networks as well as special panels in professional membership organizations also dedicated to sustsinability in business.  Consumers are beginning to make thier choices baded on environmental issues related to individual businesses and also their CSR efforts.  There are also individual regulations that come with fines requiring air quality among other environmental health priorities and case laws that establish private fines.  When considering all of this and the fact that Paris is focused on the US complying with the reduduction of carbon to replace requirements in areas that are developing, allowing those areas leeway to develop unsustainably under the regards that carbon emmissions transfer past international boundaries.  How does this help us or really even effect us?

    Those are my two cents.  I'll get references to consider later when I'm not in the middle  of work :)    

    Sincerely, 
    Bonnie Aylor    

    On Jun 3, 2017 1:09 PM, "Mark.Fentonocreevy" <mark.fentonocreevy@open.ac.uk> wrote:
    For a nice summary see the NASA page https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    Mark

    Mark Fenton-O'Creevy
    Associate Dean External Engagement
    Professor of Organisational Behaviour
    Open University Business School
    Walton Hall
    Milton Keynes MK7 6AA
    United Kingdom


    Sent from my iPad

    On 3 Jun 2017, at 01:53, Dr. John Lambert <000000448b5c14c4-dmarc-request@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> wrote:

    Ladies and Gentlemen:

    This may be a response that some may not want to read, but I ask you to take a deep breath and consider the rhetoric involved in this discussion around the world for the past couple of decades. First, the argument was about "MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING."   When stats showed that perhaps the facts were not meeting the rhetoric, the climate-advocacy-agenda movement then changed the argument to a second rendition: "MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE."  When that too did not gain the necessary traction, the third rendition was vocalized today at the US White House press briefing, with repetitive questions that were essentially: "Does President Trump believe in CLIMATE CHANGE?"

    For the record, I believe there is clear evidence of CLIMATE CHANGE.  This is clearly evidenced in the various ice-ages that are part of the history of the world.  This is clearly shown in the Antarctic explorations that proved that continent was once had a tropical climate, at least along the coastline. Moreover, natural emissions into the atmosphere by the planet itself are probably a tad more destructive than anything that mankind could do today.  Just ask, if we could, the folks who lived in Pompey.

    This is not to say that there is clear evidence of pollution on localized levels; this is easily seen when one sees the blackened cathedrals and other historic buildings in Europe.  That problem is localized, and a local fix can address it.

    I ask you to take a step back and look at who screams the loudest about this "climate change"; I dare assert that most are not barefooted impoverished holy-men-beggars.  No, no; these are folks who fly about the planet on private jets, move around on land in chauffeured limousine motorcades, telling the rest of us to tighten out belts; to give more money to this entity or that entity that is going to solve all of our environmental woes.  Sorry, folks, I do not buy it.  Follow the money. Look at which companies and which of the global elite are set to become enriched in this whole man-made global warming; excuse me, man-made climate change; oh no, climate change (thats it!) agenda. 

    Follow the money.

    As for me, I back the President of the United States, Donald Trump.

    My statements are my own and do not reflect the opinions, positions, policy, or rhetoric of anyone else.

    Dr. John Lambert

     


    From: John D <jdilyard@GMAIL.COM>
    To: IMD-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:52 PM
    Subject: Re: Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Dear Aseem,

    Thank you for sharing your views.  Now is not the time for hysteria or 'the sky is falling thinking'.  Yes, the announced pullout (which, remember, takes three to four years to accomplish) is a strong negative symbol, but so are all the responses to continue supporting the Paris Accord coming from a wide spectrum of public and private sector sources, domestic and foreign.  There are strong market forces that will continue to push for the mitigation of global warming, and also strong public opinion forces.  By his words and actions, Trump essentially has marginalized the United States and made it largely irrelevant on the world stage, both with respect to climate change and international diplomacy.  But by our actions - and 'our' includes academia, local government, not for profits, etc. - we can continue the effective push to address climate change and marginalize and make Trump and his wealthy puppeteers irrelevant.

    Let me share with you a link to the keynote speech made by Prof. Jeff Sachs at the Global Solutions T20 Summit on May 30th.  It's a bit over 22 minutes long but well worth hearing.


    Best,

    John Dilyard
    Professor, St. Francis College
    Brooklyn, NY

    On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Aseem Prakash <aseem@u.washington.edu> wrote:
    Hello everybody:

    Here is our perspective on the US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement:

    "Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?"
    https://theconversation.com/ar e-we-overreacting-to-us-withdr awal-from-the-paris-agreement- on-climate-78741


    Aseem
    ****************************** ****************************** ********

    Aseem Prakash
    Professor, Department of Political Science
    Walker Family Professor for the College of Arts and Sciences
    Founding Director, UW Center for Environmental Politics
    39 Gowen Hall, Box 353530
    University of Washington
    Seattle, WA 98195-3530

    http://faculty.washington.edu/ aseem/
    http://depts.washington.edu/en virpol/





  • 10.  Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

    Posted 06-03-2017 22:05

    Although I consider sustainability to be an international management issue, this discussion is becoming uncollegial.  Therefore, as list director, I am curtailing it.

     

    Collegially,

    Charles Wankel, IMD-L list director

    St. John's University, New York

     

    From: Camillo, Angelo [mailto:Angelo.Camillo@woodbury.edu]
    Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 7:43 PM
    To: International Management Discussion List <IMD-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: RE: Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

     

    Dear John,

    I have been debating for the past 10 hours whether I should reply to your email. Little nervous but I did and here it is and sorry my French as we say in the U.S.  

     

    I have always respected your points of view but this email may have caused damage to many of us in academia and AOM members who disagree with you.

     

    Have ever seen Beijing in person? Or Mumbai? Or Seoul? I have! Think again who the greatest polluters are and who is paying  to fix their problems? Think about this: I am Italian, a small farmer in Sicily has done nothing to the planet and yet cannot bring enough food to the table because of overregulation due to Fake Data, Paris Accord and the Kyoto Protocol. If all this were true, why did the British Scientist commit suicide? But that is another story.

     

    I am personally more scared of BSE caused by British - American scientists who fed animals' parts (bones) in meals to cows (vegetarian), cannibalizing them,  than the fake climate change story: see http://www.webmd.com/brain/mad-cow-disease-basics#1 and http://www.veterinaria.org/revistas/vetenfinf/bse/14Atkinson.html and http://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/FastFacts/pdfs/bse_F.pdf.

     

    But this is not at the core of my email.

     

    First of all why use our Academy Of Management  platform to express our political ideology? Many of us, the silent voters, don't talk much, don't offend, don't take sides, don't categorize colleagues according to a specific taxonomy:   Trump and his wealthy puppeteers irrelevant. Well, in the last election we were not irrelevant, we put Trump in the WH. To your point about fake global warming (yes FAKE, only God knows the real data) and now climate change it is pure semantic in order to get an agenda pushed through in a specific direction using politicians. Remember "Gay Marriage?" No one respected our gay colleagues' wishes in which they asked to be considered human being like others and when the wish changed to "Same Sex Marriage" our gay colleagues finally got what they wanted from the supreme court and rightly so.  But this is different! What are we fighting for? Why are we, the intellectual society getting so involved in one political stream without even considering "one time only" a different option/ opinion? Why do you hate Trump so much? He hasn't even been in the office that long and what has he done to you personally? Why do you call me Trump and his wealthy puppeteers irrelevant. I am sure you have analyzed Facebook and Google 10-K filings for your classroom? Why the CEOs' pay themselves $ 1.00 salary a year? Aren't they rich I-tech people democrat puppeteers? About Mark Cuban who tells ever young America to drop from the university and get a job so they can work for him for free because they would have no academic preparation to join the workforce. About Bloomberg? Isn't he a rich white/ Jewish wealthy democrat? About Himmelt? About Soros? And, all the Hollywood crowd, media moguls etc.? We all can share ideas and blame each other but let's also respect each other. 

    Please, next time think that there are thousands of AOM members who may not think like you therefore, a little respect would be appreciated. I can only speak for myself however I know that "We", the silent ones never stop free speech, never offend etc. (yes there are exceptions too) however, we can agree to disagree but again, watch your language, after all it is a small world out there and we all could all get hurt one day because what you and I have just put in writing on the AOM platform will be in cyber space forever.

     

    Thanks for reading my email and for considering a better way to communicate your political point of view even if directly or indirectly related to our work in the classroom.

     

     

     

    Angelo Camillo

    International Coordinator for "Sinergie" Italian Journal of Management 2017 Conference: http://www.ita.sijm.it/demo/106-news13/1196-sinergie-xxix-annual-conference.html

    __________________________________________________________________________________________

    My Recent publications Available on Amazon

    Founding Editor-in-Chief: International Journal of Tourism and Hospitality Management in the Digital Age (IJTHMDA)

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    Associate Professor of Strategic Management

    School of Business - Woodbury University 

    7500 Glenoaks Boulevard, Burbank, CA 91510-7846 - USA

    Phone: +1 - 818.394.3314 - Fax: +1 - 818.394.3311

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    P Think about the environment before printing this page

     

    From: International Management Discussion List [mailto:IMD-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of John D
    Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:20 PM
    To: IMD-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?

     

    Dear Aseem,

     

    Thank you for sharing your views.  Now is not the time for hysteria or 'the sky is falling thinking'.  Yes, the announced pullout (which, remember, takes three to four years to accomplish) is a strong negative symbol, but so are all the responses to continue supporting the Paris Accord coming from a wide spectrum of public and private sector sources, domestic and foreign.  There are strong market forces that will continue to push for the mitigation of global warming, and also strong public opinion forces.  By his words and actions, Trump essentially has marginalized the United States and made it largely irrelevant on the world stage, both with respect to climate change and international diplomacy.  But by our actions - and 'our' includes academia, local government, not for profits, etc. - we can continue the effective push to address climate change and marginalize and make Trump and his wealthy puppeteers irrelevant.

     

    Let me share with you a link to the keynote speech made by Prof. Jeff Sachs at the Global Solutions T20 Summit on May 30th.  It's a bit over 22 minutes long but well worth hearing.

     

     

    Best,

     

    John Dilyard

    Professor, St. Francis College

    Brooklyn, NY

     

    On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Aseem Prakash <aseem@u.washington.edu> wrote:

    Hello everybody:

    Here is our perspective on the US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement:

    "Are we overreacting to US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate?"
    https://theconversation.com/are-we-overreacting-to-us-withdrawal-from-the-paris-agreement-on-climate-78741


    Aseem
    ********************************************************************

    Aseem Prakash
    Professor, Department of Political Science
    Walker Family Professor for the College of Arts and Sciences
    Founding Director, UW Center for Environmental Politics
    39 Gowen Hall, Box 353530
    University of Washington
    Seattle, WA 98195-3530

    http://faculty.washington.edu/aseem/
    http://depts.washington.edu/envirpol/